Monday, July 31, 2006

There You Go Again

The following is a quote from a post by Charlie Grapski on the ALA Speakout Blog, posted on 07-31-06.

"I think the most telling thing about Rod Smith - is that the Alachua County Republican Party, its friends the developers, and those they work with in the City of Alachua all WANT Rod Smith as Governor - yet he is a Democrat."

On what do you base this ridiculous claim about the Republican Party? I can assure you, that it is not true. Just as we have volunteers working hard, now, in both the Crist and Gallagher camps, when the primary is over, they will all be working very hard to make sure that the Republican primary winner wins the election.

But, what is particularly disturbing, is your tendancy to just make stuff up.

By the way, I called the Division of Elections, again, this morning. You claim that you filed your second quarter report, but they have no record of a Q2 report filed by you. Can you explain that? It is probably just another example of your tendancy to make stuff up.

1. Where is your report?
2. If no contributions or expenditures, where is your waiver?
3. How do you expect anybody to take you seriously on election reform or your complaints about the city of Alachua when they know that you just make stuff up?

Posted by SJ

40 Comments:

At Mon Jul 31, 01:45:00 PM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

It seems clear to me that Mr. Grapski would rather be fined then admit that no one contributed to his campaign (that he knew he would win!).

Where is the transparency in your campaign? What are YOU afraid of?

 
At Mon Jul 31, 02:04:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Stafford and Calderwood,

It seems clear to me that both of you consider me some kind of threat - since both of you are obsessed with discussing me and my candidacy even when I am not running.

Mr. Jones - my comments about the Republican Part of Alachua County and Rod Smith - although you might not want to admit this state-wide or within your party - are based upon observations of your attitude and approach to Rod Smith. I believe - as I stated - that your local party and its allies would welcome Rod Smith as Governor as you have more in common with him that you differ with him.

Mr. Calderwood and Mr. Jones - again you are grasping at straws. Once again - while I do not file reports with you I do file them with the state and they have been filed with the state.

What is the issue of "transparency" here? The whole issue of reporting donations is based upon the undue influence of money on politics. The reason why it is important to know WHO is funding a campaign - is to begin to understand WHY an elected representative might be acting the way they are.

There is no issue in my campaign about me being influenced (let alone unduly) by anyone's money. SO there is no issue here.

As for no one contributing - again - you don't know the facts. I have not solicited money - although I did begin to do so just prior to deciding to step out of the race. As is clear I asked not for contributions but for pledges to contribute - and I received those - and as those do not need to be reported, they were not and will not be so reported.

WHat contributions I did accept have been reported.

Mr. Jones - it is you who just makes stuff up - including this claim of making stuff up.

As for your conversation (alleged) with the Division of Elections - I have no idea. Whether or not you called them is not for me to determine - but it is interesting how concerned you are about this. Quite telling if you ask me.

I filed my report with the agency I am required to file with. Whether or not you are able to find out the information - that is a matter for you to work out. I don't report to you.

Once again - what is the issue of UNFAIR or UNCLEAN elections that you keep trying to eek out of this.

Do you claim I am acting on behalf of some private interest which is funding me to use my public actions for their benefit? What exactly is it about my attempts to expose corruption in government that you seem to think is undermined by what you claim?

As far as I can tell - beyond that fact that you are actually ignorant of the actual facts - all you are doing is trying to make an issue out of nothing.

Mr. Calderwood - in reply to your last statement - the one thing that is clear is that I am not afraid of YOU now am I?

 
At Mon Jul 31, 02:07:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

I also note that Mr. Calderwood, you conveniently left out the actual site that is "dueling" with this one - and that is the Alachua Project (not the Speak Out).

I also note that you, Mr. Calderwood, are the primary "anonymous" poster at the Speak Out - so it is a bit disengenuous to claim (falsely) how much you are interested in open and honest debate.

 
At Mon Jul 31, 02:46:00 PM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

So what you are saying is that the three plus months that you were a declared candidate, no one contributed any money to you, is that correct?

The reason that we are concerned about your failure to follow the law is your insistance that everyone follow the law. Plus your silence on why you failed to follow the law.

 
At Mon Jul 31, 02:49:00 PM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

The dueling web sites was reported in the Gainesville Sun. They said that there were vicious barbs being reported. I wanted to be sure that the public knew which site had those vicious comments. The Alachua Project is a non-player in the political arena since no one comments except you.

 
At Mon Jul 31, 03:08:00 PM, Blogger Stafford Jones said...

The following is from the Division of Elections website:


http://election.dos.state.fl.us/reports/wheretofile.shtml


Waiver of Report

A waiver of report indicates there has been no activity in the campaign account for the reporting period (no contributions received and no expenditures made). The candidate must indicate there is no activity by filing a waiver of report via the EFS by the due date. The next report filed must specify that the report covers the entire period between the last submitted report and the report being filed.


Charlie, are you claiming that this does not apply to you?

 
At Mon Jul 31, 03:20:00 PM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

By the way, Mr. Grapski, you are very wrong about my being the primary anonymous poster on the Speak Out. Just another false statement by you. Where do you come up with this stuff?

 
At Mon Jul 31, 03:28:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Mr. Calderwood,

You indeed are one of the primary posters at the Speak Out site. Indeed one merely needs to analyze what you write under your name on this site - and what is nearly identical in terms of style and rhetoric in the anonymous posts on the Speak Out site - and one can conclude fairly strongly the amount of time you spend posting to that site.

On the Speak-Out site, Mr. Calderwood, there are indeed "vicious barbs" - and while there are some against you - there are many others made BY YOU.

So you are a hypocrit in the real sense of the word, Mr. Calderwood - and reading the history of your written contributions and speeches (and your wife's) duly expresses the kind of rhetoric that you are known to employ. Again you are a hypocrit.

Again Mr. Jones - you continue to fail to grasp the actual facts - and raise silly questions. You don't know the facts, that is clear. All reports have been filed as is required.

 
At Mon Jul 31, 03:32:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Mr. Calderwood,

I know the "plot" that you are trying to create as a means of shifting focus from your wife's corrupt and negligent practices in public office.

However you again fail to do so - in either sense - as there is no issue here at all.

I demand all PUBLIC OFFICIALS follow the laws so that CITIZENS are the ones who actually rule - rather than are RULED by a group of self-interested actors such as you and your wife and those for whom you shill.

You don't like that - because you and your wife do not like the LAWS that are designed to REGULATE growth - as you have an interest in opening the gates of development up at public expense (so long as you can take the money from the public collectively).

There is no issue of my campaign violating the laws. The issues of reporting that you even claim exist - although you have your facts wrong - are not issues that would, under any reading of facts, rise to the level of a violation of public trust - as your wife has continually been in violation of.

You can continue to try and create the (mis)perception of an issue. But you will continue to fail - as there is no issue.

 
At Mon Jul 31, 03:36:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Mr. Calderwood,

What part of chapter 286, Florida Statutes, has your wife consistently violated? What are the potential ramifications?

 
At Mon Jul 31, 04:05:00 PM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

Mr. Grapski, your attempts to circumvent the Court ruling to have no contact with city officials by attacking my wife thru me will do you no good.
Once again neither my wife nor I have taken any money from the public collective. On the contrary, the public thanks us daily for the work we do, even if you don't like it. We work under a representative government. If they don't like what she does they will let her know at the polls.

 
At Mon Jul 31, 04:30:00 PM, Blogger Stafford Jones said...

Again Mr. Jones - you continue to fail to grasp the actual facts - and raise silly questions. You don't know the facts, that is clear. All reports have been filed as is required.

So, are you saying that you are not required to file a waiver? Is that correct?

 
At Mon Jul 31, 09:34:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Stafford,

Once again you do not know the facts and are asking questions that have no basis.

Am I, particularly, required to file a waiver? If I fell into the category requiring such a waiver I would file such a waiver. As I do not fall into that category - I have no current plans on filing such a waiver - as would be expected when I am not required to do so by law.

 
At Mon Jul 31, 09:40:00 PM, Blogger Stafford Jones said...

I understand, Charlie. You are saying that the statement that is located at the Division of Elections website applies to everybody but you.

That, for some magical reason, you fall into a special category that only you know about, and all of the other people that had filed to run that had not activity needlessly filed a waiver.

By the way, where and how did you make all the petition copies that you supposedly filed? Who paid for your campaign website / blog? Was it in-kind?

Charlie, you are deluding only yourself and the very few people who, mindlessly, believe you.

But, nobody said that self-delusion is a crime. Just the crime, itself.

 
At Tue Aug 01, 12:45:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Actually Stafford the only one delusional here is you.

Again - you are grasping at straws, don't know the facts, and keep - actually - making things up.

Once again - IF the conditions of the law requiring a waiver applied - I WOULD file a waiver.

They do not - so I have not.

Once again, Stafford, I have filed the reports - and they are full and accurate - and all of the expenditures made by the campaign (including the copies) are therein accounted for - so you have no issue but keep trying to make it appear as if you did.

And you and Hugh go over to the Speak Out and post anonymously this nonsense - again as hypocritical as one can get.

There is no issue here Stafford. Its very simple. The reports of my income and expenditures for the campaign are not secret - they were filed with the State.

You keep stating things as if you knew the facts - but clearly do not know them.

It sounds to me like you are obsessed.

I expose corruption in public institutions and by public officials. You don't like that - particularly since you like the OUTCOME of that corruption - thus you support those corrupt officials.

Rather than recognizing the corruption - you try and "blame the messenger" (i.e. me).

ANd so you grasp at straws to try and divert attention away from the facts that make you uncomfortable and for which you have no defense.

So you try and CREATE the idea that I am "hypocrit" - I demand that the laws be followed by public actors - but you claim I do not follow them.

You are incorrect as to that latter claim. But even if you were not: 1) the situations are not parallel; and 2) even if I were somehow corrupt - it would not mean that your friends and allies were not CULPABLE for their corruption.

Again Stafford - the issue you are creating is hardly one of "unfair" practices, or "corrupt" dealings, or actions contrary to the public good. It is a red-herring - at best. But it is also based upon false premises.

The issues that I have raised:

Regarding the stealing of an election by City officials with direct links to the James Lewis campaign;

The abuse of power - taking public money (derived from the taxpayers) and giving it away to the rich corporate interests (and their "investment" in your friends and cronies - and your local party activities [linking you personally to the corruption]);

The lack of qualifications and knowledge by public officials (i.e. Clovis Watson, Alan Henderson, Jean Calderwood, Marian Rush);

I could go on.

These are REAL issues. Unfortuantely for you they are not issues that YOU want to have discussed and opened up to the public.

And you do not want those registered Republicans to know how DEEPLY tied to this corruption the local Republican Party has gotten - including under your leadership (which is truly disappointing as I had believed that you would be an asset to those honest Republicans after what Travis Horn did to them and in their name) - I can understand fully why you want to shift focus from these issues onto an issue you are desperately trying to create.

Stafford - you have chosen the bed you are lying in. Now you will have to face the consequences.

All that money for silly billboards and other things that come from your "friends" (with vested interests) in the end will not look good for the Republican party.

But then again - when you (with the State chair's cooperation) openly embraced CORRUPTION and the STEALING OF ELECTIONS and INCOMPETENCE - in hoisting Clovis Watson up as your STANDARD - you betrayed those local Republicans who truly are HONEST Republicans. And I know - and have spoken - to quite a few of them.

You have made a mistake (we all make mistakes). The only difference is that you will not recognize your actions as a mistake and instead are desperate (like George Bush) to change the subject.

 
At Tue Aug 01, 01:20:00 PM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

Mr. Grapski, you can clear this problem up very simply. The state election comm says that they don't have any reports from you. You say that you have filed. Tell us with whom you filed so that we can verify your claims.

 
At Tue Aug 01, 01:35:00 PM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

Better yet, put your reports on your blog. That should increase your hits and maybe someone will post.

 
At Tue Aug 01, 05:49:00 PM, Blogger Stafford Jones said...

Charlie, you are wrong about a couple of things:

1. Whatever posts you are referring to on the ALA site, I guarantee you that they are not from me. My posts are here for you to see.

2. The Division of Elections does not have a filed report from you for Q2. I know much more about what you have and have not done than you think I know, including the last date that you accessed the EFS (electronic filing system).

3. I have confirmed with the Division of Elections counsel that there is no circumstance in which it is legal for you to be late, especially as late as you are.(106.07 F.S. and 106.0705 F.S.)

4. I also know for a fact that they have sent you a failure to file letter.

5. I also know for a fact that they consider your Q1 report incomplete (106.07 F.S.)

6. Little bit of free advice: since you did not qualify, you can skip F1 (due this Friday), but your termination report is due to be filed by October 19th (106.141 F.S.)

Again, this is a big deal because you waive around the law and accuse people of all manner of fraud and illegality, yet on your first outing as a candidate, you have violated state law.

 
At Tue Aug 01, 06:38:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Mr. Calderwood and Mr. Jones,

I am under no obligation to report to YOU. Therefore I have no intention on responding to your "demands."

I suggest that when you begin acting as the agent for the City of Alachua and bring it into compliance with the law - that maybe we can talk.

Once again - I have filed the reports I am required to file. Whether or not you have been able to obtain them - is not my problem - but yours. If you are that interested in the issue - keep pursuing it. I am sure you will find the State, while not exactly super-efficient and effective, far more accomodating to your public records requests than anyone requesting such from the City of Alachua.

Mr. Jones, once again, you are ignorant of the facts and are attempting to make something out of nothing.

If you know the last date of my accessing the filing system - then you would know the date I filed THE THIRD report of the three I have filed.

Again - even if all you claim were true (and it is not - and again you are ignorant of the facts - but are clearly obsessed with me as you have a whole web site dedicated to me ... all because you don't like that I "waive around the law" and demand public officials be held accountable to it (yes - I do this)).

Again - there is no fraud or corruption going on here - even if all you claim is true.

My campaign spent very little money. It wasn't a money-based campaign. I also did not spend time raising money - although had I remained in the race I would have raised a substantial enough amount to do what was necessary. But I chose not to do this.

What money has been spent (all of it) and what money has been received (all of it) has been filed with the Department of State.

Yes - we all know that the second report was filed late. You don't have a clue as to WHY that occurred - but it did occur - and is no big deal. But it was due to circumstances beyond my control - and Tallahassee was aware of those circumstances - and the matter was ultimately resolved.

Oooh. You got me there. A report was filed late.

Damn - now that makes me a criminal doesn't it. Clearly I was acting in my own personal interest and agaisnt the public good wasn't I. What EXACTLY do you think is being "hidden" from you in the first place - that you are so concerned about this.

Stafford, you are a silly man. I nice man. But a silly man. You play in the political arena - although I believe your intentions are good (I would not say the same for Mr. Calderwood) - but you are overly swept up in the system and you keep blinders on yourself to keep you from seeing your own hypocrisy. This issue is a non-issue, as I have stated, and I am happy to deal with the Department of State if they need me to respond to them (they have not contacted me at this point with any concerns).

I find it amusing that you want to turn an issue of a late filing (regardless of the reasons for the lateness) into a claim that it is an issue whereby I am "breaking" the law.

You are clearly grasping at straws and you look ridiculous.

But then again - you and "Bud" seem to be all excited about your little issue. Whereas I find it amusing that you are so obsessed with me.

I guess I worry the two of you.

 
At Tue Aug 01, 06:40:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Stafford,

Please state the issue of FRAUD that you are claiming that I have committed.

I certainly have given you plenty of examples of the fraud ongoing in the City of Alacuha committed by the likes of Jean Calderwood, James Lewis, and Clovis Watson.

If you want to claim fraud - show it.

 
At Tue Aug 01, 08:14:00 PM, Blogger Stafford Jones said...

I didn't say you committed fraud. I said that you violated the law.

 
At Tue Aug 01, 09:09:00 PM, Blogger Stafford Jones said...

Charlie, I am not grapsking at straws. When you file as a candidate, you are required to do certain things with regard to campaign finance reporting. You have not done those things. The Department of State has confirmed that. They have contacted you. Since you weren't even aware that there was a court hearing in which Bernie Machen was awarded attorney fees from you, I don't find it hard to believe that you are not aware that you were sent a "Failure to file" notice. Beyond that, the Department of State, Division of Elections is not going to police you. It is up to others to file the election complaint against you.

We are not talking alleged acts of campaign finance violations, we are talking about actual acts for which we have evidence.

The conversations have been had with counsel at the Division of Elections. They have pulled up your records and confirmed for me that you are not in compliance and the statutes for which you are in violation. I have even been so kind as to detail in a previous post exactly which statutes those are. Conversation has been had with a private attorney. Information has been collected from the Division of Elections and the Florida Election Commission complaint is being prepared.

When an FEC investigator contacts you, you can explain to them why the law doesn't apply to you. It is a matter of breaking the law. The Florida Election Commission is actually pretty strict when it comes to late filings. They tend to excuse people for a burned down house or some other catastrophe, but not much else.

Here is another hint, for you. Your Q2 report was opened, either by you or your treasurer (when you had one) and was last accessed on July 24th. It has not been completed and submitted. It is sitting in limbo in EFS waiting for somebody to finish and submit it.

 
At Tue Aug 01, 10:01:00 PM, Blogger Stafford Jones said...

Charlie, one more note:

In a post by you (08-01-06 17:53) on the ALA blog, you thought you were responding to me. I can 100% assure you that it was not me that posted that.

At 08-01-06 17:55, you again accused me of making posts that sound like me, or having someone post them for me. I can assure you that neither of those is the case. My posts are here for you to read, and they have my name on them.

Why would I post, here, under my own name and then post similar stuff on the ALA site, anonymously?

Did it occur to you that, just maybe, that other people read what I write and carry the message forward?

But, one thing you said in one of those posts, really intrigues me. You said:

But you seem to expect that just because you make a claim - makes it true - and makes a candidate required to answer you.

But that is exactly what you have done with the City of Alachua. You don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot, do you?

No, Charlie, I did not make those posts, and, in no way, shape or form, was any message sent to anybody, directly or indirectly, to get them to make those posts on my behalf. Those posts are 100% independent of me.

 
At Wed Aug 02, 12:00:00 AM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Stafford,

It occurs to me that there are less than a handful of people who - along with you - post here and at the Speak Out site - and that this handful parrots the same things that you and Calderwood write here - with little added.

Again, I am often disappointed by you, Stafford, but then again - we are all human. Again, unlike others, I believe you "believe" in your cause and I respect that. I just feel that you are far too naive for your own good - and that you have become an unwitting pawn of some very unscrupulous actors.

While you fritter away trying to make an issue out of nothing here - you fail to recognize the harm that these individuals have done to your own local party and the many ideas that you had for it. I honestly believe that some of those ideas would likely have been good for the community. But I think you have gotten in bed with actors who you might think have the means to get you where you want to go (and take your party) but who could really care less whether you are successful in those particular endevours or not. They have their own agenda - and they are quite willing to use people like yourself and Clovis Watson.

Unfortunately we have seen what they have done to Clovis Watson - not that he was ever a saint. But he certainly would not be getting into the kind of trouble he is currently finding himself in if it were not for the "guidance" of these self-interested actors.

It really matters not WHO is actually posting there. They are merely parroting what you are saying here. And it is as baseless and senseless there as it is here.

Again, Stafford, I have to apologize for my criticisms of you - as they might sound harsh (I have to - for my own sake, not for yours). But I want to be sure to distinguish my interactions with you from those for whom I have not even a shred of respect (i.e. Mr. Calderwood). I view both of you in different lights - and even when you are on "the same page" - I distinguish your motives from each other. That distinction can often get lost in the exchanges of barbs, etc.

 
At Wed Aug 02, 12:02:00 AM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

On a lighter note - for some historical perspective:

Growth... A Look Back to 1974


In many ways residents of the City and County of Alachua can look back 32 years to 1974 as the year "the Troubles" began. Perhaps they began some time earlier, in truth, but 1974 stands out as a true watershed moment: the moment the tiny City of Alachua entered a highly dubious spate of rapid annexations and rezonings. Disney had recently opened its doors - having itself begun a major transformation of the middle portion of the State of Florida with highly questionable land deals. The Mayor, James Lewis, was serving his 7th out of 40 consecutive years on the Commission. Lewis, and other commissioners and former commissioners, turned their privately owned lands into a profitable business through their influence on the City's Commission.

We turn back the clock to 1974 to see how the High Spring's Herald (Alachua at that time was too small to have its own paper) regarded the changes that potentially lay ahead for Alachua County - changes they feared, fears that have been realized. With the issues of corruption in Alachua City Hall prominent in the news, the controversy over the proposed cement plant clearly impacting the lives of those outside of Alachua's city limits, and the developer's dream approach to municipal government implemented in Alachua ... all of Alachua County should read this historical editorial - and its warnings - carefully.


In many ways residents of the City and County of Alachua can look back 32 years to 1974 as the year "the Troubles" began.


Perhaps they began some time earlier, in truth, but 1974 stands out as a true watershed moment: the moment the tiny City of Alachua entered a highly dubious spate of rapid annexations and rezonings. Disney had recently opened its doors - having itself begun a major transformation of the middle portion of the State of Florida with highly questionable land deals. The Mayor, James Lewis, was serving his 7th out of 40 consecutive years on the Commission. Attempts were underway to consolidate Alachua County on the model of Jacksonville. With its coffers significantly short, the City of Alachua began borrowing money in order to bring corporate industry to town (i.e. Driltech from Chicago). Lewis, and other commissioners and former commissioners, turned their privately owned lands into a profitable business through their influence on the City's Commission.

Click "MORE" to read the text of the editorial (Click Image to enlarge):

We turn back the clock to April 18, 1974 to see how the High Spring's Herald (Alachua at that time was too small to have its own paper) regarded the changes that potentially lay ahead for Alachua County - changes they feared, fears that have been realized.

With the issues of corruption in Alachua City Hall prominent in the news, the controversy over the proposed cement plant clearly impacting the lives of those outside of Alachua's city limits, and the developer's dream approach to municipal government implemented in Alachua ... all of Alachua County should read this historical editorial - and its warnings - carefully.




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High Springs Herald
April 18, 1974
Editorial

Growth...

Since just after Christmas, the Herald has received a total of 16 new subscriptions from Florida residents moving into our area.

Ten of these families are from the Miami area, three from St. Petersburg, two from Fort Lauderdale and one family from Jacksonville.

When asked by the Herald how they happened to re-locate in this area, most had the same reply... "The rat race of big city living has become unbearable."

And the maddening pace of unchecked growth goes on.

It is beginning here with the migration of unsatisfied families into this part of Florida. One gentleman who will soon be moving to Fort White from St. Pete told us last Saturday, "I just hope that the growth of this area will be well planned and thought out."

We agree.

Those of us who were fortunate enough to be born here or the many of us who have called this area home for several years, forget how lucky we are.

We still know of clean rivers, beautiful pasture land and unspoiled areas where one can build and enjoy "the good life." It is only natural that many fellow-Floridians have moved here hoping to share in that lifestyle.

Immediate and long-range planning for controlled growth must begin now.

Alistair Cooke, an Englishman by birth, but an American by choice, has been writing about America for 40 years. In an article for Family Weekly this Sunday, he discusses the disappearance of the American small town.

"Is this a lament for what we have done to the landscape and the characteristic small town that nestled in it? he asks. "You bet it is! Nobody loves this country like an American, and nobody respects it less. The way we are going, we will have nothing to show across a 3,000 mile continent but commercial junk, neon signs and endless flocks of billboards."

Vigilant local and county leaders can prevent this happening here. We can choose our future lifestyle in the actions we take today.

Cooke, in summary in Sunday's article, probably states it best for the many who have recently moved into our area.

"It is the good people, whether within a mile or two blocks, who make a neighborhood. And a neigborhood is what makes a livable small town. There is no such thing as a livable big city."

We could not agree more.

 
At Wed Aug 02, 12:09:00 AM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Stafford,

The shoe is not on the other foot. There is no parallel to my exposure of ACTUAL CORRUPTION in Alachua City Hall - the use of public institutions and offices for private gain - and the allegation that you raise about my campaign filings.

These are not allegations of corruption - and thus are highly different. Furthermore - I request City officials VIA legal channels - and they don't like that. You are addressing me informally - and without any authority - and basing your claims on your HOPED-FOR conclusions rather than the actual facts (and your conclusions are drawn based upon false premises - as I have stated).

The shoe is certainly not on the other foot. I have no problem with you critically analyzing any thing I do AS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL (and while a candidate is not a public official). Now the scope of public official may, in some cases, stretch to include candidates for public office - in their actions in the effort to be elected to that office - but to date you have drawn conclusions without having the facts - and demanded that I justify those conclusions to you.

I cannot justify those conclusions - because they are falsely drawn conclusions based upon flawed premises and a lack of knowledge of the facts.

 
At Wed Aug 02, 06:33:00 AM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

Mr. Grapski, I see that you put more information on your blog. I asked that you put copies of your reports up so the public could see the public information that you are required to report. Now you are acting just like the enemy you perceive. Why are you dragging your feet in giving us this information?

 
At Wed Aug 02, 08:38:00 AM, Blogger Stafford Jones said...

You are addressing me informally - and without any authority

Untrue. Just as it is within your rights to file a lawsuit, it is within my rights to file an FEC complaint.

Here are some more hints, for you.

You claim that you have filed three reports. Wrong, you have filed one report and opened (but not completed) 2 others (Q2 and F1) in the EFS. Your Q2 and F1 are in limbo in the EFS because they have not been completed and submitted. In other words, the Division of Elections does not show them as filed.

Do you agree that the reports are intended to make campaign finance records available to the voters? Well, yours are not available. A member of the public does not even have the ability to call the Division of Elections and request a copy of your reports because they aren't completed and submitted.

You are stubborn, Charlie. I have already given you everything you need to realize that your reports are not filed, but you continue to insist that they are.

You are incomepetent as a candidate, and given the number of other facts that I have seen you misrepresent, I can only assume you are incompenetent in many other ways, as well.

If you don't know how to use EFS, I would be happy to help you out with it.

What you do know will truly define your character. You have two choices. They are:

1. Swallow a little pride and say, "Stafford, you are right. My reports are in limbo because we didn't submit them. I will get right on it." This is the path of redemption.

2. Continue to argue the absurd position that you have filed your reports as required by law. That path leads to darkness.

 
At Wed Aug 02, 10:26:00 AM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Stafford,

Once again - I am not required to answer your questions - particularly when asked in the way (they were not questions - they were conclusions and criticms based on those conclusions).

I have, however, answered them.

The answer is that I have filed THREE reports of my campaign finances. The second one was late due to circumstances beyond my control. The three contain every item of revenues received and every item of revenues expended.

I have not taken money illegally or unethically. I have not used money illegally or unethically. I have not been unduly influenced by self-interested actors - who have used their money to "purchase" a candidate/representative.

These are the relevant issues to campaign finance reporting. You have failed to raise a single issue that merits discussion.

The only thing that you are whining and complaining about is that 1) YOU believe that my first report has an error in it. 2) YOU have not been able to see my second report - which was filed late. And 3) I have not explained to YOUR satisfaction why my second report was filed late.

You have attempted and attempted to make an "issue" (the perception of one) out of a non-issue.

You continue to do so.

Once again - I have filed THREE financial reports to the Department of State. Each of those reports honestly and accurately indicates every dollar coming in to my campaign and every dollar going out of my campaign.

I cannot answer your questions any other way - than to lay out those very basic facts.

I am not trying to HIDE any information. I am not WITHHOLDING any information. I am not MANIPULATING any information.

Its as simple as that. But you are desperate to CREATE the image that I am somehow hypocritical when it comes to the law. In this you fail even to understand my arguments about the law being applied and enforced on public officials. But you also are deliberately trying to create the (mis)perception of wrongdoing - when there simply is no wrongdoing.

You are trying to exploit a simple fact of a late filing - without knowing why that filing was late (and without it being relevant at all anyway) - and to inflate it into some grand conspiracy which you think will undermine my credibility in exposing the corruption of your friends and political allies.

Where you seriously err, in the first place, is to look at this issue as if it were about ME.

The issue is not about me. You could discredit me till your heart's desire is fulfilled. But it will not remove the FACTS that I have exposed about your friends and allies from the plane of REALITY.

Your friends and allies are exploiting the public's resources and its trust - through the misuse of public office and institutions - for their own PERSONAL gain.

I am exposing that - and will continue to do so until it is stopped.

You don't like that - because you AGREE with the outcome of the policies - and care less about the PROCESS (i.e. fairness, equality, ethics). The ends, to you, justify the means. I disagree fundamentally on this - as well as your conclusion that the ends you seek (and are being obtained) are justifiable or desirable.

You are attempting to shift the focus of conversation off of the wrongdoing of your friends and allies - and trying to make this an issue about ME.

One of the reasons I have stepped out of this race - was because it was not about ME - but about the PEOPLE of the city of Alachua and beyond.

Attack me all you like, Stafford, I can handle it. Particularly when you are trying to create the IMPRESSION (false) of something without anything of substance actually being there. You love the tactic of the red-herring. But I don't play your game.

The fact of the matter is - all of this issue rests in the fact that in the City of Alachua - with your support - there are a number of self-interested actors exploiting the public for their own personal gain - without any regard for the law, morality and ethics, or the public good and justice.

I am committed to standing up to you and your tactics (which are really a minor distraction), those of the Calderwoods (which are also minor - but take on a different dimension than yours due to the difference in your motives and your character), and to continue to EXPOSE the corruption regardless of any of the personal costs.

In the past, people like Hugh Calderwood have driven out of public life those honest and decent actors such as Tamara Robbins - by his constant attacks of a personal nature and without regard for the truth. He is as unprincipled an actor in the political sphere as I have ever come across - and I have seen some unprincipled ones.

His tactics will not succeed in this case. I will not go away until the cancer has been fully exposed and understood - and sufficient actions have been taken to provide a cure for the disease.

The people of Alachua deserve far better than what he - and unfortunately Stafford you and the local Republican Party - are causing to happen there.

It is a real shame, Stafford, a real shame that you have decided to use your leadership role over that party (and I am not a fan of parties and the two party system) to draw a line in the sand in Alachua and stand up for and behind their corruption. It is a real shame that you did not have the courage to stand up and - despite the amount of money that support for what is going on there bring to your party coffers - condemn the corrupt practices in that city and instead chose to EMBRACE (openly) the tactics of stealing of elections, ignoring the public's rights to participate and observe, and the exploitaton of public resources for private gain.

You have done a disservice to those honest persons who are registered Republican in this community. I am truly disappointed as I have said before - because those individuals deserved better after what Travis Horn imposed upon them.

I believe that your motives are different from those of Horn and Calderwood. But I believe you are too naive to notice how much of a pawn you have become for that very ilk of political actor.

I have said my last on this subject Stafford. Although I don't owe you personally an answer to questions that are only loosely based upon fact and are designed instead to fit your agenda - I have answered the valid aspect of your question over and over again: I have filed THREE reports of my campaign finances detailing each and every monetary transaction into or out of my campaign treasury.

 
At Wed Aug 02, 10:36:00 AM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Mr. Grapski, I see that you put more information on your blog. I asked that you put copies of your reports up so the public could see the public information that you are required to report. Now you are acting just like the enemy you perceive. Why are you dragging your feet in giving us this information?

Mr. Calderwood, while I would call for you to place a statement of all of your "interests" on this blog - you would not comply. So I don't bother doing so. And I am not about to "jump" at your beck and call - as I recognize no publicly justifiable need to respond to your tactics. Again - I am not interested in the game that you play and have turned our political system into.

I would note, however, that I believe on TWO occasions your wife was requested, by the public, when the public indeed had a right to know - along with James Lewis - to file a public statement of your "interests" with regard to votes being taken on certain "development" issues.

I believe on both occasions your wife refused. If you expect others to answer your demands - perhaps you should start by doing so first yourself.

 
At Wed Aug 02, 12:53:00 PM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

Mr. Grapski, how can I repond to your latest diatribe without easily falling into the trap of calling you a complete raving idiot. But I will try.

The REALITY of your refusal to produce your reports for the PUBLIC to see only shows that you have something to hide. The election LAWS are there just so that the PUBLIC CAN SEE, your pathetic excuses not withstanding!

Your complete ignorance is also showing in your comment that my wife has refused to file public statements of my "interests" in certain votes. Now I know that you meant her interests but that just shows how out of control you are in your thought processes and statements.

As to your erroneous statement that she was asked twice to make such a statement again shows how ignorant you are of the FACTS. Your ALA buddies are feeding you mis-information and making you look like an idiot. They also can't keep their facts straight, a malady of ideologs.

During the open meeting about the Wal Mart Distribution Center held in the rec center one of the ALA commissioners suddenly announced that all the commissioners should sign a statement about any dealings that they have had with Wal Mart and/or WACO. This had never been done before and wasn't required by law or tradition. It was aimed at trying to embarrass Lewis and Hills. Mr. Lewis didn't sign the paper which was perfectly legal as it was not a requirement. He told the crowd all the past business dealings that he had with Mr. McArthur which in no way conflicted with the matter at hand.

Now here is where you have been mislead by your so called friends. The mayor WAS NOT ON THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME! She has filed all financial disclosures as REQUIRED BY LAW. She HAS NEVER BEEN ASKED TO SIGN ANY OTHER DISCLOSURE in public or otherwise.

I will answer ANY question you have about any "interests" I have. I have already answered you in the letter to the editor but I will gladly repeat that if you wish. I have never taken nor received any money, stock, gifts or insider information from any company or individual, period. IF you have some "proof" to the contrary, present it in court.

Your continued campaign of lies and mis-information only makes you look ridiculous at the least.

 
At Wed Aug 02, 04:45:00 PM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

I just realized that the title to this thread is "There you go again". It started because Mr. Grapski was spouting mis-information and making up lies. It is obvious that he is in a habit so deep that he just can't break it. His continued campaign only destroys his reputation further then he already has accomplished.

 
At Wed Aug 02, 08:55:00 PM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

Mr. Grapski says:

In the past, people like Hugh Calderwood have driven out of public life those honest and decent actors such as Tamara Robbins - by his constant attacks of a personal nature and without regard for the truth. He is as unprincipled an actor in the political sphere as I have ever come across - and I have seen some unprincipled ones.

As President Truman said, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen". Please point out any untruth that I have said about ex-commissioners Robbins. I said that Robbins micromanaged the staff. That is true, as many of the staff complained. I have the e-mails. Mrs. Cain had to resort to having all phone conversations on speaker phone with a witness in the room because of the abuse she took from Robbins. Both city managers who worked under Robbins described her as "evil" I didn't make that up. I have offered proof of her back room dealings out of the Sunshine in her own words.

If I was hard on Robbins it was because I didn't like the way she acted. I find it ego building that I was so powerful as to keep Mrs. Robbins from her desire to serve the public. I can say that the ALA treated/treat my wife as bad if not worse (you included) and she has never shyed away from her serving the public. And the public seems to approve of her leadership. Leadership is a word that you fail to understand. (Now you can bloviate about how the Deaniacs just love you, gag)

 
At Fri Aug 04, 04:34:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Mr. Calderwood,

I believe it is a fact that your wife was on the Commission and asked to file a disclosure of interests and refused - along with James Lewis.

I believe (actually I know) I have all FIVE of the forms for disclosure - and I have THREE filled out - and I have TWO not filled out. One in the name of James Lewis and one in the name of Jean Calderwood.

 
At Fri Aug 04, 04:36:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

Actually, Mr. Calderwood,

YOUR interests are JUST AS MUCH RELEVANT as your WIFE's interests - when it comes to disclosure of interests, regarding potential conflicts of interest, of public officials.

A public official WHOSE SPOUSE has a particular interest - is not supposed to vote on that matter - just as if that public official THEMSELVES had that interest.

 
At Fri Aug 04, 04:37:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

"I have never taken nor received any money, stock, gifts or insider information from any company or individual, period. IF you have some "proof" to the contrary, present it in court."

Wonderful. But this begs my question. That is not an answer to my question - why don't you RELEASE PUBLICLY what "interests" you do indeed have.

That is a fundamentally different question.

 
At Fri Aug 04, 04:41:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

"I said that Robbins micromanaged the staff."

Yes - because in your ideal government - the ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES are subservient to the staff - and only the City Manager (who you also attacked - as being unqualified - till the only change in his qualification - was his SUPPORT for the policies you wanted enacted).

Yes - because as your wife has exemplified - her ideal (and yours) of a REPRESENTATIVE body is to have the City Manager (unqualified) DECIDE UNILATERALLY what policies the city will ENACT - and for the Mayor to ensure that the public does not see or speak to these matters by hiding them within the consent agenda (in violation of law) and having that adopted PRIOR TO the public having any input or observation of the matter.

And just WHO gives the policies to Clovis Watson? Or are you saying that his vast experience and training has made him an "expert" in such matters?

You see, Hugh, you are going to be exposed - along with the rest of the cabal in Alachua - for abusing power and corrupt practices.

And you are not happy about that.

 
At Fri Aug 04, 04:42:00 PM, Blogger Charles Grapski said...

By the way Hugh:

Tamara Robbins never broke the law as a commissioner.

Your wife has - repeatedly and consistently.

She has deliberately and consciously broken the law to PREVENT the public from seeing what is going on in their names and being able to participate in determining where their money and resources go - and how much more money will be exploited from them.

If this is what you call leadership - then we are clearly on opposite sides.

 
At Fri Aug 04, 09:14:00 PM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

Wonderful. But this begs my question. That is not an answer to my question - why don't you RELEASE PUBLICLY what "interests" you do indeed have.

Ask me a question, I'll answer you. Once again you think that I am a mind reader. What area of interest are you talking about? Give me a clue to the inner workings of your mind (sic).

 
At Fri Aug 04, 09:19:00 PM, Blogger Hugh Calderwood said...

Mr. Grapski says:

You see, Hugh, you are going to be exposed - along with the rest of the cabal in Alachua - for abusing power and corrupt practices.

I'm waiting!

 

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